Chris Ronzio (00:18):
What's going on, Daymond?
Daymond John (00:20):
Living the dream, Chris, the dream.
Chris Ronzio (00:24):
Amazing. I was just watching your Instagram stories. I saw you doing a photo shoot or something.
Daymond John (00:30):
Yeah, the FUBU line. We did a collaboration and they wanted to have this kind of old and young feel, so daddy and daughter.
Chris Ronzio (00:39):
Daymond John (00:39):
It was fun. And she actually behaved today. So she was good.
Chris Ronzio (00:47):
That's great. Cool. Well, I'm glad we're getting on here. I was telling Marissa before we started that, I don't know if you know this, but it was a year ago today, we were doing that music video in Brooklyn.
Daymond John (00:57):
Chris Ronzio (00:58):
Yeah, same day.
Daymond John (01:00):
And I went to Catch Steak last night.
Chris Ronzio (01:03):
Daymond John (01:05):
And I was like, the last time I was here, I was with Chris and everybody. And wow, it's been... How time flies.
Chris Ronzio (01:13):
A year exactly. So the reason that we were jumping on and doing this was actually from that conversation at Catch. And so you want to set this up or do you want me to set this up? It's kind of all about goal setting, right?
Daymond John (01:25):
No, it's your community, I'm part of it obviously, but you're the leader, man. You're our fearless leader.
Chris Ronzio (01:32):
Okay. All right. So I'll catch everyone up. When we were in Brooklyn last year, we're shooting this music video with Montell Jordan. So shout out to Montell. If anyone hasn't seen the music video, go check it out. This is how you do it. It's like, this is how we do it, but kind of a remix for entrepreneurs. So check that out. Daymond's got a cameo in there. So we're shooting that music video. We went out to dinner after, and I asked you a question as we got into dinner that was, you've accomplished so much, what are your goals? How do you even think about goals today? What's next for you? Do you remember what you said?
Daymond John (02:10):
I would know exactly what I said, but I'd rather you repeat it because I know my goals have not changed, have not altered much in the last 20 years. My six month goals have altered much because either I conquered something or I found out there was something that I would no longer as passionate about in times and change. But my two year, five year, 10 years and 20 year goals, don't often change.
Daymond John's Goal
Chris Ronzio (02:32):
Okay. All right. Well then I'll remind you, let me know if this still resonates. So you simplified it with one word, health. And you said, at this stage I'm really focused on health, on fitness, on being there for my family and that's kind of what it comes down to. So we talked a little bit about that. And then over the last year we've had some other conversations about some fitness things. You've got a fitness goal going on right now. I saw you actually post a picture of the scale this morning. Do you want to share your progress?
Daymond John (03:03):
Yeah and I made sure because the damn internet is undefeated so I definitely wanted to make sure they didn't see how my toes look like. I was an eagle ready to pick up a salmon out of a lake. My progress is great. And I think more importantly about my progress. So I'm down approximately I think 12 pounds, maybe even more.
Chris Ronzio (03:28):
Daymond John (03:32):
You know, Chris, I mean, you do a lot of training and things like that. You're going to have your people here. It's not about down, it's about... Then you get muscle, all that crap. I'm down 11 in a healthy manner. And I've been showing my progress, but also what's important and I want people to understand this is I've been showing my weaknesses. My human aspect of my life, which is eating shit, some of the wrong shit, but the shit that I'm showing you that I'm eating is 10% less of the wrong shit I was eating. But I want to show it to you.
Showing you my unfortunate sleep deprivation because there's so much technology that's coming around. People think I'm glamorizing the fact I'm not getting sleep well. It depends, if I'm on a platform like TikTok, where you can only say so much in 30 seconds and type in so much, they think I'm glamorizing and I'm not glamorizing. I think sleep is crucial to repairing the body. Showing people that I'm just doing walking. And you're going to always have different opinions. And I think this goes into Trainual.
It goes into... You do things at your pace, the way you absorb information. And it's only the way that you can do, and you learn, and you grow, and you do two steps forward, one step back. You don't get discouraged by this. And like with Trainual, you start educating yourselves as you get into the world of where you want go, on how to be more efficient and proficient. But if you don't start the first step, you'll have a million people going, how come you didn't do this? You should do it like this. Shut up. You do it like that. I don't do it like that. I do it in my pace, but I'm still going to get there. So that's what I've been trying to show people.
Chris Ronzio (05:17):
I love that you're sharing the progress. And when you're so accomplished in one realm of life, in the business area, but then you're posting these beginner things of you going in for a half hour walk or an hour walk in the fitness side, I think it helps people connect to like, okay, he didn't just get there to where I see him today on the business side, he took these same kind of steps. And so all these different areas of our lives really connect. So is health and wellness, is that still your primary goal or do you have other areas of your life that you are setting specific goals and trying to knock them out?
Daymond John (05:53):
So health and wellness is my primary goal. It wasn't always. For most of my life as you know, I was sacrificing my health. And then when I got, I can't lie... Listen, when I first ran into money and I was able to go in a restaurant, before it was once a month, maybe I could treat myself and maybe one day I'll be able to order this. And then I was starting to go into restaurants every night and I was like, I want the steak, but I don't know if I want the fish. I can order both.
Chris Ronzio (06:27):
Yeah, get them both.
Why Health Became Daymond's Life Goal
Daymond John (06:30):
And that was cool. And that was a priority. That became the priority in life to be like, I want to taste everything and I want to go places. And then all of a sudden I turned around, I was 230 pounds. And for my body... I'm 5'7 and a half. Don't forget the half, that's extremely important. I'm trying to get there, that half is important when you 5'7. But my body index, generally, I'm supposed to be at 170. I shouldn't have been at 230. But then again, if you know me, I faced and I had cancer and various other things. I had the slowest growing cancer. Thank God I got it out of my body. But now as I turn around at 50 something years old, and I've seen a lot of people around the world and I notice that health is something you always have to work on.
It is not something that is established once you do something, because we have a lot of different things, work-life balance. There's a lot of technology that's coming out that's showing you different aspects of your gut, your DNA. Old medicine, new medicines, more viable medicines. A lot of times, it's not about the medicines. It's about being able to treat something or prevent something prior, instead of thinking there's a pill that's going to solve everything. So a lot of these things is something we're constant... You need to constantly work on to perfect as you know.
Chris Ronzio (07:52):
One of my goals this year was actually a diagnostic health thing. I just had to go and get a bunch of tests because I had a couple friends that, one had a heart attack, another one had a brain tumor and it scares you to think that stuff can just stop you in your tracks. And so it was actually a goal for me to go and get everything tested this year.
Daymond John (08:10):
Well, I can give you that information. That's how I found out about cancer is called an executive physical. I happen to go to UCLA for it. Mayo Clinic has it, really excellent. You're out in Arizona, I think, right?
Chris Ronzio (08:23):
Daymond John (08:23):
Mayo Clinic is really great. I do believe for older people, I do believe that you can get programs that'll take care of it, but for younger people, it's costly. I mean, it's not covered by insurance. It could cost anywhere from five to $10000, but they give you what they call a Chinese menu and you look through all of it and say, I want to do this, I want to do this, I want to do this. When they found my cancer, they were actually checking my carotid veins to see how clear they were to prevent strokes. And then they said, oh, by the way, there's a nodule on your thyroid, you should check it out. So you can choose to go through three machines or 20 machines or 200 machines up to you. I highly suggest everybody do this within every other year, about two years, because it may be five or $10000. And guess what? It's worth it because five and $10000 means nothing if you don't have your health.
Chris Ronzio (09:17):
Yeah. It's kind of like a form of life insurance. [inaudible 00:09:21] find out early, it's more practical. You can act on it. So were you ever an athlete, like before business, were you playing sports? Were you doing that kind of stuff? Did the business take your fitness off track?
Daymond John (09:36):
So I was never good... I was never... So I played baseball. I played little league as a kid. I was okay with it. I was very, very active because I was a break dancer and I was very, very active. And I grew up at the time where there were very rarely did you ever see a McDonald's. And our kids eat pizza literally every day today. If you had a pizza party in school, that was once every month, maybe so and our parents cooked. So I grew up very healthy in general. I actually was training right around 18 or 19 years old. I was training for fitness competitions, because I wanted to be in fitness and natural body building. But I was training in my basement.
The internet didn't exist and I didn't have any experts. Obviously I was poor to explain that to me. And I remember I was taking these type of pills that I bought from someplace and my mother was smart enough and she looked at the pills and she realized there was some form of steroids and various other things and she threw them out. And then I realized that maybe that body I had wasn't.... I had to work way harder to have the body I just had because after I stopped taking that's stuff, my body shrank. But yes, I was healthy. I was conscious. But then all of a sudden work did come into play where I was working all these days at a day job and working on a night job, meaning FUBU and my health went out the window. And right around 30 years old, I was... I think I posted up on Instagram. If you look on Instagram, I post yesterday or the day before, I'm a round little...
Chris Ronzio (11:10):
Wait, is that the red boots?
Daymond John (11:13):
Oh yeah baby. That was when I was about 230.
Chris Ronzio (11:18):
I almost texted you to see if you were going to show up in the red jacket and the red hat. I need to up my game.
Daymond John (11:24):
Chris Ronzio (11:24):
All right. I hear from a lot of people that the business sort of takes over and they put their health to the side. Even before Trainual started, my last businesses, I considered my exercise was walking through airports. I was traveling, I was busy, I was on the go. But same thing, dinners and probably eating too much. And so for me, it was kind of a challenge. My brother who started Trainual with me, challenged me to do a Spartan race. And he said, let's put it on the calendar. Let's work toward it for a few months. And that was the jump start that I needed to start doing this stuff. But I couldn't get around to building it into my routine before that.
Daymond John (12:06):
It has to be something... Your health and your... Whatever it is that you value. What are we working for? We're working for hopefully to bring the resources around our family so we have good medical, good stuff like that. We're living in a safe community and our kids are safe and we want to be able to be okay in life. But why do you want to need good... Why do you want to work really hard to have good doctors if you could prevent having good doctors because you're taking care of your health? Why are we working so hard if we're not going to be able to reflect and look at our kids and walk them down the aisle and our grandchildren, because we've burned out so much?
Now somebody may be saying Daymond, well, good for you to say that, but you know what? I'm making $30,000 a year and I have to go to work. But again, that's why we have things like Trainual and various other things. So hopefully improve your life so you can enjoy a quality of life. And I think that if we look at anything of COVID happening, the best thing that came out of there is a lot of this virtual work and a lot of other ways to maximize our time and be in the places that we love to be able to do the things we want to do.
Chris Ronzio (13:12):
Yeah. All right. So I want to go over the different fitness tips that we've talked about, because I think those could be helpful for people. I'm curious what you've built into your regimen, and then maybe we can zoom out and just talk about goal setting in general and some business goals and just how you set them, track them, look at them and achieve them.
Daymond John (13:30):
All right. So Darrell just said, he need to hear this. And Trevor said made your day. Absolutely. Thank you for chiming in. So let's talk about fitness tips first. So I'm a person... The reason I think that I have this level of success, I always go back to some of the most basic things that was said. And these things are what helped me, pushed me through when I go back to it. If I'm doing something in the money and is looking really good. And I don't like it. I go back to that thing where it goes, money's a great slave, but a horrible master, or I go to my business and I go, okay, there's only three ways to acquire a customer.
Acquire a new one, upsell a current one, or make one buy more frequently. Acquiring a new one is 20 times harder than upselling one or make one buy more frequently. So with these customers, how can I supersize their fries? I always go back to the basic form. When I say to myself, I can't do it. Wait a minute. My mother told me that everything in this world was created by one person with one idea that took one action. Why the hell can't it be you? I go back to these formulas. And so there's a couple formulas where I go back to when it comes to working out. And by the way, I am not an expert in this and I'm working...
There's a couple of different concepts because you got... Chris, life is very, very, very, very simple to understand. Life is very simple on understand Chris, extremely hard to execute it, right?
Chris Ronzio (14:55):
Daymond John (14:56):
All right. Here's one thing that is very simple. Here's one thing to understand, very simple. You want to lose weight? Eat less calories or burn more. Now those are very hard to do. So when I look at the first thing about health is a mental thing. Number one, you've never outrun the fork. I always say that to myself. You can never outrun the fork. My buddy has said that to me. So whenever I'm thinking about all the steps I'm going to put in, all the weight I'm going to... Or what I'm going to do. And I go like this, I go, wait a minute. That thing is four miles. I can't outrun this goddamn cookie.
Chris Ronzio (15:34):
Yeah, mine's a spoon. Mine's a spoon with just peanut butter.
Daymond John (15:39):
And then I always go back to some of the other fundamentals' abs are made in the kitchen. So when I'm thinking about going and it kicks me in my ass when I think about going to the gym and I'll be, you know what, I got to be on a plane, train, automobile. So let me work out these abs in the kitchen, meaning let me just have some straight protein. All right so that's some of the things initially I do.
Then I go to myself, I go busy executives like you, me and a lot of the people around the world, we have no escape when we're running around and we are dealing with all these pressures. We have pressures but you can't tell your staff your problems. Imagine your staff walking and seeing you crying one day, they're going to go, oh shit, I better start applying for another job because we're out of here. So you can't tell your staff your pressure, your problem. You're traveling [inaudible 00:16:29]. The job doesn't leave you.
This is not like when I was a waiter, nobody woke me up in the middle of the night and said, give me extra tarter sauce. So the job can't leave. It doesn't leave you. You take it to sleep with you. You have personals issue with your family and stress and finance and you have to report to the board or you have to please people and you can't tell nobody your problem, but yet you got to list to everybody else's problems. All right, what does that do? Well, listen to the piano man. That leave you to a bar late at night so you can just detox and defuse because if you couldn't get to the gym that day and you can't get a release. Well, the only thing that's going to cut that damn thing off is a nice Tito's and whatever.
And so what are you doing there? Well, you're drinking empty calories because every one shot is 75 calories and it also cuts your metabolism off and slows it down. And what does that do? Well, to me, everybody goes, oh, just take one drink. No, no, no, no, no. I love the actual drink so I'm going to have three or four doubles. I'm going to go back to that hotel room. I'm going to wake up in the morning and I'm going to think of a goddamn dog got into the garbage because I'm going to see Kit Kat's and all kind of shit lying around. And then I'm going to be too tired to go to the gym. It is a massive, massive down slope, right?
Chris Ronzio (17:41):
Daymond John (17:41):
When you had to train yourself and find out how can I get back to this? So before I even get into the physical part of it, those are the things you need to fight first. And it's not easy because I've been trying to lose this winter weight since 2018. So I know what I need to do, but I need to start doing it more because just like we're talking about priorities here. I got priorities in business, got priorities in relationship, got priorities with family, got priorities with staff, and every one of these got to be adjusted at a certain time. I'll get to it but now it's time to get to it.
Chris Ronzio (18:14):
Daymond John (18:16):
Sorry, I'm sounding like I need a shrink these days and I'm sure everybody else is here like, goddamn he's going through the same problems I'm going through.
You Can't Outrun The Fork
Chris Ronzio (18:21):
No, this is entertaining. I mean, all the things you're saying are right. I mean, you got to eat less calories. You got to burn more calories. So the first step is you can't outrun the fork is what you just said and you've got to cut some things out. For me, it was, I just loved bread. I grew up in an Italian family. I would have bread and olive oil and sandwiches and pizzas and all that. I just had to cut the bread. Which actually, I'm a diabetic, so it worked really well for my blood sugar too, cutting out the bread. And then it was incorporating regular exercise. And at first it wasn't marathons and triathlons. It was just, can I get a half hour under my belt every morning? Can I sweat? Can I get a good routine?
Daymond John (19:01):
So boom, now that I tried to cut out the liquor and I have cut it all out because I started doing better things like drinking every alternative day or drinking tea or every other drink, whatever. Now I go into the diet of the day and I start looking at the supplements I need, obviously do whatever. And then I try to reduce one of my... And I do the studies and I look and you know what happened? That fasting in a small amount of time, it didn't really work for me because I would fast for 18 hours and then I'd eat a bucket of chicken, because I was so fucking hungry and I was like, yo, you know what? I did the damn thing. So I decided, well, why don't I just start substituting one meal with a green drink and then I learned, okay, why don't I take in more water to fill me up because our bodies made of water. And then I start the workout.
So here's how I started the workout process. I go, let me start putting in steps on the treadmill while I make my calls in the morning, instead of getting up and sitting around and making the calls. I do my goals. We'll get to it. And then let me put an hour in on the treadmill. Now, if I can't talk because I'm in a meeting and it's getting really crazy on the meeting, well then let me put on Ozark or OB-Wan. I haven't caught up to any of that stuff and let me casually walk. And then I start into a little bit of running. And then when I wake up in the morning, if I'm in a hotel room and I can't get to a gym, let me try to put in 25 pushups, then push us more to 50, then the push us more to 100. And these small little steps start taking me down the route.
When a lot of people are so black or white, you need a trainer. First of all, I'll tell you why I don't want a trainer. Because first of all, the only time that I have during the day that there is no noise is when I have the hour or two hours to work out. I understand that trainer is going to absolutely train me in one hour, which would take me four hours, but I don't want to talk to anybody, I want to zone out. And when I get down, as I am now, I'm starting now to talk to trainers who...
And I don't want the trainer who wants to say, I teach Daymond John. I'm not trying to prove anything here. I want trainers who are going to show me how to use muscles I've never used before, or going to show me how to use resistance bands and various other things like that, because what's the use of a trainer who's trying to impress me. And now all of a sudden I got to get a surgery or I'm out for six months. So that's the way I look at, slow progress. And that's the way I look at it in my relationships, in my business and in everything.
Chris Ronzio (21:23):
100%. When I started... Before I started running, same thing, treadmill for 20 minutes, 30 minutes. And I was watching YouTube videos and webinars and trying to learn about the software industry because I knew nothing and it was just a good way to pass the time. So I think that's a great tip.
Bunching Your Goals
Daymond John (21:39):
[inaudible 00:21:39] somebody who runs. I look at sometimes when I'm slowly running or I'm looking at business... My buddy was telling me, he was a marathon runner and he said, he calls it bunching and bunching was, he's not looking at the whole 20 whatever, 26 and a half. He's looking at getting to that fire hydrant and then getting to that tree and then getting here. And that's how I start looking at business. When people are often like get in shape, let me just get 25 pushups out every morning and get a habit of doing that and then move the 25 to 35 and 40. Is that a good way when you're running? Is that the theory?
Chris Ronzio (22:19):
Yeah so for long distances, I ran the Boston Marathon this year, I was doing the same thing. Let me get past the first five miles, then let me get to the halfway point, because I know my kids are there with a sign and then let me get to Heartbreak Hill where I know that there's going to be the incline and I've got some employees there. And so absolutely milestones, but even not for just a long race, but if you've got a long fitness goal over the year, I try to bunch or chunk out the milestones to say, okay, if I want to do this triathlon at the end of the year, that means I probably need to get on a bike at the beginning of the year and figure that out.
So let me have a Q1 goal, that's to be able to ride 15 or 20 miles on a bike. And then let me have Q2 goal, that's like, I need to learn how to swim. So for me, I would get a coach to show me, not to be there watching every time, but to show me once. And then I go off on my own and do it for a month to get good at it. And then have someone come back and say, are you doing this right? So for me, the bunching is kind of the milestones along a longer term goal.
Daymond John (23:19):
You know what? I think bunching is great because it's what we call in business an affordable step. Let me get to this point. And I think, like Michael just said is benchmarking and I think that's critical. When the devil or bad things come into our lives, it usually doesn't come in a very harsh way. I'm not talking about people who have had loss or tragic incidences. When I started going down that path, if you look at Shark Tank, season number one, two and three, I was so ready for that show. I was 178. I was lean and I was ready to rock. But when the devil of temptation comes into your life, it doesn't come in usually in big ways, it comes in as, you're looking good. You can have one Tito's and soda. Yeah the Tito's and soda don't really have an effect, you can have another one. By the way, since you had that, you can have that meal. And it slowly comes into your life. And when we bunch, I think that gives us the upside because we're fighting it and we're moving forward.
But I think we don't all, most of us watching now, every one of us knows when we're failing, we really know why we're failing. We just don't want to admit it. We know why we're not amazing at our job or what we're doing. And if we just don't want to admit it, because we don't hold ourselves accountable. And that's why we're talking about goals.
It's funny, Chris, I'll give you one last thought process of this. If somebody here watching this is normal. Me and you, somebody, let's say you're going away on vacation. You be like, man, Chris, yo man, when we get to our island to go fishing in Cabo, soon I get down, I'm having me a Piña colada baby, because I'm on vacation. And you know what happens? At the airport we go, I'm starting the vacation early. And then when you get there, you almost always have that. That's an easy go, right? I'm going to have that Piña colada. We're here. But people don't do that with progress in their life. They don't hold themselves accountable.
They don't go, I just talked to Chris and Daymond. I just saw them sitting there. You know what they told me? To go down home and just start with this one goal tonight or just pick up this one book and try to read one page. You don't go, why didn't I do that? I'm a loser. But if you went on vacation, you'd be like, I know I'm going to get that Piña colada. The easiest things to do are always the things that we choose to do. Why don't we hold ourselves accountable for things like that, that first step that we're talking about, like goal setting?
Chris Ronzio (25:43):
I have another friend Russ that got me into this morning routine. And he was showing me how to do my green juice in the morning and work out and write down some goals. And I was doing this, I got a habit of doing this for a week and I sent it to him and said, all right, how long do I do this for? And he said for the rest of your life.
Daymond John (26:00):
Chris Ronzio (26:01):
And I was, oh, okay. I got it. So if we zoom out from the fitness stuff here, what is your routine for setting annual goals in all areas of your life, across business and personal and family? And do you have a framework or process you go through?
Daymond John (26:17):
I do. And many people here have followed me for years and they know my technique. And I didn't come up with this. The first time I read it and where I read it from is Napoleon Hill, Think and Grow Rich. And it teaches you at what a reform you're at. I've been doing now goal setting approximately about 40 years. So there's 10 goals I write down. If this is too big for you, as we're talking about bunching, write down one. And six of them expire in six months, the other four expire, and as I said, two years, five years, 10 years and 20 years. And the ones that expire in six months, I never hit because I said, I'm so big. So if the goal is to make this amount of money, if I make this amount, when I reset it, it's this amount and it grows.
I read those goals every night before I go to bed and I read those same goals the first thing in the morning when I wake up. The reason I read them before I go to bed is we all know that when you are... That's why a lot of us don't like to watch certain things at night because when we go to sleep, we dream about them. My wife and I have agreed that no matter what disagreement we have, we don't go to bed angry at each other. I'm not saying we make up, but we only say we're going to finish this discussion tomorrow. And what do we say? I'm going to be here for you. I'm going to be here for you. I want her to think. And I want me to think about how she's going to be there for me. And I want that to be what I manifest if we're having an argument instead of dreaming of disaster or challenges or whatever the case is. So that's why you read when you wake up and when you go to bed.
Now, what are the goals? So the goal is supposed to be, what do you want to accomplish? And now the goals can be business, religion, anything in your life, family, what do you want to accomplish by what date? And all the six ones expire in the exact same date. What do you want to accomplish by what date? How will you do it? What is the weekly or whatever results to get? Now how does that end goal look? And what does that... And this is the most important part. What does that end goal provide for you? And you got to visualize it. So I'll give you the goal of this actual one.
And I'm a little off on the date. No problem. I'm going to get down to 100... This is the exact thing I read. I'm going to get down to 175 pounds by 4th of July by drinking 10 bottles of water a day, substituting one meal with a green drink, putting 10000 steps on my Fitbit, Apple watch, whatever you want to call it. Not eating any fried foods, meats or carbs. Not eating after 7pm due to my acid reflux and putting in one hour of training a night in the gym.
Chris Ronzio (29:31):
It's like a business.
Daymond John (29:32):
So there you go, that's the technique. Then what do I want to see as a result? I will lose one pound per week to get me to my ideal weight of 175. Now this is the critical part, because if I get down to the 175, why? Well then I go, so I can be around longer to walk my three little girls down the aisle.
And then, so what do I envision? I envision me walking my youngest daughter down the aisle where I should be. Well, first of all, hopefully she never has a boyfriend. But hopefully I will be approximately, I'm 53 years right now, she's six. So let's say she gets married at 30, so I'll probably be around 80 years old. And I look at myself as a healthy, in shape, not... Just healthy individual, walking my daughter down the aisle at 80 years old and all of our families around us. And that time I should be a grandfather by my oldest girls.
But that's an important part of the goal because when you start looking at all other things around the goal, if I got down to 175. And so maybe it's a woman right now who says I want to fit into that dress like when I did when I was in high school so that I can have more romantic dates with my husband that I love, when we steal away time from the children and go back to the way we used to be of it just being us. Whatever it is, that's what I think about.
Follow These Goal Setting Tips!
Chris Ronzio (31:03):
Well, I want to summarize, I know we got to wrap up, but the two things that you said right there, one having that long term vision. I created this story that was 10 years out in the future, it's kind of a narrative of holding the kids hands. And my wife's standing next to me and we're standing in this beach place and we're looking out at the horizon and we've got... This is what our life looks like. And I think having that kind of vivid vision out years in front of you is such an amazing precursor to goal setting because then as you realize some of those things, you realize that you look around and you're inside some of your goals and then you keep pushing that vision out.
The other thing you said is having that specific target of 175 in your case. A lot of people will set a goal that's like, I want to work out five days a week or something like that, but it doesn't have a finish line. And I think goals need a finish line so you know when you got there. So great tips there. Anything you want to say to kind of wrap this up before we close out?
Daymond John (32:01):
Yeah. Try to read those goals as much as possible. What's going to happen is, I read them every night before I go to bed. No I don't. And what happens is I end up saying, wait, I haven't read them for three nights or whatever the case is. Also, sometimes those goals will sit three to four months. I go, I'm not that excited about that business. Let me scratch it. Now I only have five. I'll reset when I get again to six, because it's a business or you've cut people out of your life with it or you've realized you went far down the path and you weren't passionate about it. Those are the critical aspects of the goal. And no matter what, just make sure you see yourself. So if you have a business right now, you want to grow your business. You think about in 10 years, there's numbers in the six month goal of growing your business. But in a five year, 10 year plan, is it a bunch of people saying, man, you've changed my life?
Is it you living on a great island or a great place with your family saying, you know what, mom, dad, I know all the stuff you sacrificed for us and I really appreciate what you did for us, and you trained me how to be a better and harder person at life. The goal doesn't have to be materialistic. It could be you being in the middle of Africa, building wells for kids because your business did so well that you are now being able to serve others. So don't ever think the goal has to be materialistic, because honestly I've never been to any funeral with somebody talked about all the things somebody had. They only talked about how they made people feel, what they did for others and how they sacrificed and loved others. So always make sure you don't confuse what I'm saying with materialistic things.
Chris Ronzio (33:27):
Thank you. Important point. Thank you for grounding us with that. So to wrap this up, I guess, thank you everyone for joining. This was just a conversation we were having off to the side and thought it'd be useful for the community, so I'm glad we jumped on and did this. If you join late, we'll be recording this and posting it out on the Organized Chaos podcast. You could check that out. Any final words, Daymond?
Daymond John (33:49):
No, that's it. Thank you for being a great partner. Thank you for when I... And now as I was going through it. I shot out some questions to you and you gave me a great list of things to do, and I didn't do most of them, but they're there because now I got to the stage to go back to it. And thank you for wanting to give to your community. That is exactly what entrepreneurs supposed to do. It's a team sport.
Chris Ronzio (34:13):
Sounds good. All right. Well, I can't wait to get back together in person. We'll go for a jog or something.
Daymond John (34:18):
You got it, brother.
Chris Ronzio (34:19):
All right. Take care.